View Full Version : HOLY COW... READ THIS!!!! Las Vegas Haunted House
05-02-2012, 02:51 PM
05-02-2012, 02:54 PM
That should be interesting to follow this season.
05-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Here is another article that offers more details... http://dailydead.com/eli-roth-to-open-haunted-attraction-in-las-vegas/
It will be located in the City Center, and they are talking about building these across the World and cities across America it says.
05-02-2012, 03:08 PM
Thats pretty cool. The commercialization and "franchisation" of haunted houses. Guess Strelak over in Las Vegas is going to be screwed now eh?
I know you did the SAW haunted houses, but that doesnt seem to be as mainstream as this could be...
05-02-2012, 05:06 PM
This is fantastic! I hope they also open a Halloween Store on the Strip
05-02-2012, 06:40 PM
I would probably go back to visit Vegas just to see this! And my aunt and cousins of course. Lol! I used to live in vegas at one time in the late 90's. Vegas can support something like this year around. St. Louis could never have something like this year around. Aren't you glad your not in Vegas Larry!
Haunted Prints (EOM)
05-02-2012, 07:28 PM
Wonder if Larry or Ben are working on this Haunt?
05-03-2012, 11:51 AM
I wonder if they're partnering with someone who has haunted house experience?
I know at least one member of this board who would say that this thing is going to crash-and-burn, because he doesn't believe any haunt on the Strip can work. Of course the last two years there was a seasonal haunt right on the Strip in front of New York, New York that did well... I'm questioning the year-round aspect of this new haunt though. That might not be a good move. I think maybe something like an attraction themed around a popular family-friendly franchise like The Munsters, Adams Family, Twilight, Buffy, etc. might work. I could see that being year-round, but as for a straight-up horror/haunt? I'm not so sure. Guess we'll get to find out!
Geez... I moved away from Vegas, and two weeks later they open a black light Kiss (band) mini-golf. Now two months later they announce this year-round haunted attraction. Guess I'll need to take a trip back. If they announce that they're opening a re-vamped Star Trek: The Experience, I'll know that the universe is indeed laughing at me. :)
Haunted Prints (EOM)
05-03-2012, 04:17 PM
The corporate/celebrity name certainly won't hurt it's success.
05-04-2012, 08:32 AM
He may have experience in the film industry, but this is a completely different industry. Lucky for him he has the budget to pay people to build it for him. :?
05-04-2012, 09:50 AM
The question is does this really expand across America, does this really succeed in Las Vegas? What do you think of that? The one thing I will chime in on there is if you are renting space in that new vegas City Center I'm going to say NO... the rent is probably unreal and do succeed you'd need some massive amounts of attendance. The hotels themselves somewhat trap people with over the top shows that cost like $100 bucks a pop... I'm thinking people are not traveling to Vegas to see a haunted house, rather party, party, party and gamble.
I see this one striking out just like Ron Howard struck out many moons ago... just like the Elvira haunts didn't catch on, just like the Halloween/Freddy/Texas Chainsaw houses no one cared.
Honestly, I don't think most people know Eli Roth, those movies Cabin in the Woods (SUCKED) and Hostel (AWESOME) / Hostel 2 (SUCKED)... this guy isn't making a name for himself as a director but rather as an actor. He's actually really good... loved him in the Inglourious Basterds.
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/) In the end I don't think people really know who the guy is, love his films...
With all that being said I think the haunt sounds very interesting with a straight adult theme, and I'll want to check out this haunt. Do I think the haunt will be good yes I think it will, however I don't think his name will make people run out to see it because he just isn't that well known, I think the haunt will get more peoples interest simply based on the straight adult theme. In the very end I think it will fail because of the massive rent you probably have to pay over at that location and it seems most haunts in Vegas do not survive.
So we'll see ... I personally look forward to seeing this haunt and checking it out. I'm betting it will be very cool, different, unique, and interesting.
Haunted Prints (EOM)
05-04-2012, 02:23 PM
It's hard to succeed as it seems like people really only think about and want to visit hangs during Halloween. Only us "SPECIAL" people on this forum appreciate haunts year round. It's just a shame there is not enough of us to make more year round haunts succeed.
05-04-2012, 10:36 PM
When I first read this I thought they were doing it downtown, near the Neonopolis. That area is trying to draw people to it with special attractions (they tried buying ST: The Experience). The rent is probably cheaper too.
City Center is interesting. It's right in the middle of the high end hotel/casino/club area, but I don't think rent is as high we might think. City Center needs attractions to get people to come. It's been way overbuilt and there's plenty of space. My guess is they gave him a sweetheart deal for a few years. After that, rent will increase, and it's either a big success or they move.
05-05-2012, 08:36 AM
a new casino is being built here in columbus ohio..and last week they contacted me to see if i would be interested in moving Dead Acres inside..schottenstein is the developer and a fan of the hooch..
he knows we would bring our huge fan base to the casino...btw ..later when i get turned upside down they will just lease out to someone new... doesn't seem like a good idea to me...they just want bodies inside their doors...then blam gotcha biatch...
05-05-2012, 02:32 PM
Honestly, I don't think most people know Eli Roth, those movies Cabin in the Woods (SUCKED) and Hostel (AWESOME) / Hostel 2 (SUCKED)... this guy isn't making a name for himself as a director but rather as an actor. He's actually really good... loved him in the Inglourious Basterds. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/)
Eli Roth directed Cabin Fever (came out in 2002), not Cabin in the Woods. And both were pretty good... if not great movies, but for different reasons.
Cabin in the Woods was directed by Drew Goddard and written by Joss Whendon/Drew Goddard.
I'm not a fan of his shock horror angle, but I like Eli Roth for the most part. I think he's introducing a new generation to horror movies, much like the Saw franchise has done. Most people who like horror movies should know who Eli Roth is from the Hostel franchise. I'm not sure an average movie goer knows he was even in Inglourious Basterds.
05-09-2012, 04:30 PM
I turned down the request of two hotels last year in Vegas to do haunts. One was a sweetheart deal. I have done one downtown......never again. If your not an amusement park then it is a tough field. You're competing against all the other events that are not haunts that the hotels throw in October. To say the ones on the strip (non amusement parks) did well I would like to know your definition of "well". It is an extremely tough market if you look at the statistics over the past 20 years.
05-09-2012, 08:17 PM
I would have to agree that too many people see Vegas as a "land of golden opportunity"! Not so much!! Just because things work somewhere doesn't mean they work here and visa versa!! When we started there were 18 different haunt owners... now there are 3 and Circus!!
DarkTikiEntertainment- don't know where you got your info but the NY NY haunt was a total bust!! Same guys tried one on East Fremont, also a bust!
Accipiter- The Star Trek Experience was a 3rd party trying to bring it to downtown but there were issues on who had the rights to what. You had Paramount, Paramount Parks, Cedar Fair, even the Roddenberry estate, each claiming rights to what the other claimed!!
The Strip is a totally different animal than the rest of Vegas. People who do walk the Strip have a single purpose, to get to the next casino. Every casino on the Strip has the same purpose, keep you in THEIR casino! While there are few secondary attractions that remain viable, Bodies, Titanic, Madame Tussaud's, there are just as many that have failed...Ripley's, Guiness World Records, MGM amusement park and an untold number of production shows! You don't have to sit at a table to be gambling!!
Then there is the fact that everything in Vegas competes with Vegas. I hear people complain about a major event or concert coming into their town in October effects business. We have a major event happening in Vegas EVERY weekend in October!! Besides all the events and activity on or around the Strip, October is the best month for outdoor activities. You just escaped the scorching heat of four months of 100+ degree heat.It too cold (for us anyway) in November, December. So there are multiple food festivals and events EVERY weekend in October (welcome to my world!!!)
So it goes back to who is Eli Roth- how much name recognition does he really have? There was even confusion in this thread on who he was, even many in the horror business may not know him! This is not a main stream known commodity like a James Cammeron, Ridley Scot, even Tom Savini etc. Might as well call it "Bob Johnson's Horror House" (no offense to any Bob Johnson's out there!!) The name alone is not enough of a draw to pull the normal passing clientele. Then you have to be interested in a haunted house! I was just in San Antonio and when to the Ripley Haunted Adventure. It was a busy weekend, yet we had to stand there waiting in the entry elevator for almost twenty minutes until we had a couple more people do they would let us go through!! I am sure rent in downtown San Antonio is expensive, but compared to rent on the Strip in a new casino property????Just think, every major show is a $100 a ticket with several thousand every show. How many $20 tickets do you need to even break even?????
City Center has its own issues. They created a special Elvis themed Cirque du Soleil show at Aria....it is closing this year!!! Even the Chris Angel Cirque show that was a disaster, was revamped and continues. You would think an Elvis based Cirque show was a sure winner.... again closing this year ! So I'm not sure a City Center based "haunted house" is a good financial bet! (I'd give it 25-1)
My advise, if it does actually see the light of day, go see it the first year. Good bet is it won't be there year two! Not predicting doom & gloom, just citing reality!! Good luck!!!
05-10-2012, 03:57 PM
I agree with you totally. I think this will bomb, because they are probalby putting a lot of money into and it won't be able to afford that kind of overhead. As for Eli Roth, I know who he is but I'm betting most people don't, we are not talking about Brad Pitt here... he's made a few low budget horror movies, nothing like say THE EXORCIST! However I will say I want to check this out and see this adult themed haunted house. I'm looking forward to hopefully getting a chance to check it out. Larry
05-10-2012, 09:50 PM
Personally I hope it fails if by "adult" they mean its going to be a panorama of torture scenes. Kind of sick of the horror genres drift into torture porn. If there is to be an "adult" haunted house I'd rather see one were strippers covered in black light paint jump out at you and say "boo".
05-10-2012, 10:21 PM
"Poorest location, open every night of the year? Sat.& Sunday afternoons too?
Still OPEN! And now the downtown is really vitalized with more new businesses and new business owners changing things for the better, which sure will probably do nothing but help with the customer flow.
Of course I have probably done 95% of ALL the work here and operate the house with a maximum "Jim" involvement in each and every aspect of all things that happen here.
If the main ingrediant in being succesfull with a haunt is having a bunch of "just" money to throw at it.....it takes a few different things to find success.
Maybe he is exploring a whole new sort of a thing ?
Maybe it could work?
I would be the last person in this world to say that it would not.
05-15-2012, 03:24 PM
I wonder if they're partnering with someone who has haunted house experience?
I know at least one member of this board who would say that this thing is going to crash-and-burn, because he doesn't believe any haunt on the Strip can work.
Well, at least part of my post was dead on! ;)
05-15-2012, 08:22 PM
If it is true and most October haunts see mostly younger teenagers as patrons, will there be enough of them in Vegas to fill up the cue line? He says he's making it an adult show. Would this attract enough adults if this factor will deny any of the teenagers entrance?
I can adjust my show for each group if need be here. I don't always get it right the first time but I do come pretty close.
We sold two shirts this noon to a Grandma whose Grandson is utterly fascinated with seeing my house and Spookmobile. He is only 4 yrs. old. We discussed what his tour here would be like if that were to try to happen. It would be very similair to other small kid's tours we give, but at 4 he is Very Young and the attention span and energy level can drop pretty quickly, so he would not be seeing and doing the whole house, and it would not be a full price ticket either, but tell me, can anyone go too far wrong if you get them as young as 4? I don't think so.
Recently a man told me he has been coming to go through this house since he was 4. He has been here 30 times he said.
05-19-2012, 06:46 AM
The one article says this business is a multi-billion dollar industry. HUH? It is big and growing, but I think this guy Roth is way too optimitistic as Rich and Larry have stated. Tourist haunt like this will probably have to have at least a $ 200 ticket. Maybe they can sell comps to the casinos to breakeven and then have the real customers take them into profit. Year round ? Big gamble there I am sure.
Rich should not worry as this event is in a different market than his. I am sure Rich's customers are nearly all Las Vegas residents versus the tourist market this new event will go after. In fact it will probably help Rich when the locals do go to it and then find that Rich's show is a bargain and a good show too.
06-06-2012, 03:24 PM
While we do mainly focus on the local market we are now venturing back into the bigger "Vegas" market. Our main attraction the Asylum will be right down on Fremont Street under the
Fremont Street Experience ! www.vegasexperience.com/ (http://www.vegasexperience.com/)This is the "Glitter Gulch" you see in all the Vegas related movies! Unlike casinos on the Strip where people who do walk have one purpose, get to the next casino, people downtown actually hang out on Fremont being able to walk in and out of several casinos.
They actually approached us after having toured all the local haunts to find what they described as the "perfect fit" to their event. Their Halloween events has grown exponentially over the last couple years and they felt they needed a "crown jewel" to focus the event on...hence the ASYLUM!! They will incvlude us into their stage shows on the main stage and even cut a special presentation for the big Viva Vision Screen
There was a haunt at Binion's but it was difficult to pull people off the street and into an attraction buried back in the casino. We will be right ON Fremont Street!! Also an attraction at just one of the casinos can't be overly promoted by Fremont Street. FSE is comprised of all the casino members on Fremont. Since we are ON Fremont, all the properties benefit and all will promote it!
The Zip line that was install a couple years ago is doing boxoffice business! It was a temporary event to test its effect. Now they are creating a permanent structure that not only goes down just past 3rd Street, but will allow you to Zip line the ENTIRE length of Fremont Street!! All of this will have focus attention on our attraction being there! So we will have our local followers then be exposed to all the out of town foot traffic that has to walk right past our door, not follow signs past the sports book, to the left of the coffee shop, up the elevator from the wedding chapel!!!
Check out the Zip line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss34gfuypY (you can only imbed one video per post)
Couple this with our new Pirate Fest debuting in 2013 ( http://PirateFestLV.com )makes for a VERY busy year!!
06-06-2012, 05:31 PM
Rich is right ..the year I did Binions (Not to be mistaken with the one the year after) it was like pulling teeth to get people into the Hotel. We did decorate parts of the street and had our actors go on stage for hourly announcements. (wasn't a good idea for our stilt walker since he fell off and broke his leg). We had glow girls on the street and coupon peeps.. we pulled most of them and put older people down there because we had major problems with intoxicated people. We had to have major security to protect our people on the street. We had to really block off props cause the drunks like to punch them. I had a distortion shake n bake that took dollars on the street and that went non stop but got pretty beat up. I have one guy try to start a riot over it because he said it was racist.. even though the shake n bake was white... he said it was only black people got electric chairs .. it got pretty bad but it wasn't with the white people.. other black people on the street were embarrassed and eventfully got him to leave with threats of death. I had to try to stay off the street too cause I almost got in fights every night.. not a good idea for me. It is definitely a different market since most Vegas parent won't let their kids go down there and most peeps down there are looking for free entertainment and cheap booze. Hopefully Rich will rock it!!!
06-06-2012, 09:43 PM
I may know someone who is working on some effects for this haunt...
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