View Full Version : MHC Good News/Bad News
05-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Just a quick MHC update. We sold out the trade show floor for 2008! Depending on how you look at it this could be good news or bad news.
Now for the really good news! We have secured a larger location in the Columbus Convention Center for this year. The new floor plan has been posted and we now have more vendor booths available. We currently have 74 vendors and counting...
05-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow, congrats Barry. You guys deserve it! Ron
05-01-2008, 09:27 PM
Looks like you've become the second biggest event behind Transworld that is a great accomplishment. Good job! Do you have a list of vendors online yet?
05-01-2008, 09:51 PM
The almost up to date vendor list is at http://www.midwesthauntersconvention.com/vendors.htm .
I have a couple that I have to add yet. And like our discussion earlier, depending on what you are looking at I might dispute that second place ranking ;)
05-01-2008, 10:59 PM
What is up with this vendor? OMG
05-02-2008, 05:08 AM
I don't know Larry. Check them out at EHC this weekend and give us a report. :)
05-02-2008, 06:48 AM
I love MHC.
It's the only show we are vending at this year and that's just fine. With all the vendors and all the seminars and everything else there should be no shortage of attendees buying!
05-02-2008, 07:21 AM
Congrats Barry, we're all happy for you guys!
05-02-2008, 07:36 AM
That is good news, Barry!!
Roger and I, as well as the Scab5, are greatly looking forward to MHC. The networking and education, not to mention plain old fun, is going to be fantastic.
You and Kathy, Neena and Kelly have worked so hard on this and it shows.
See you in June. 8)
05-02-2008, 07:39 AM
What is up with this vendor? OMG
Seriously! I thought the same thing....
05-02-2008, 08:05 AM
That is great news Barry. I'm excited for the new tradeshow space (hooray for loading docks!). This is also the only haunt show we, Raven's Wolf, have a booth at this year, and I think MHC offers the perfect mix of seminars, vendors, and social events.
05-02-2008, 08:51 AM
How Dare that Fukt-up-stuf website sell my brain without my consent! Cazuont-height!
05-04-2008, 09:20 PM
Ok, this is a shameless thread bump. New vendors added this weekend. 77 and counting...
Why worry about where the shows will be in 2009. The place to be is Columbus this June!
05-04-2008, 11:02 PM
I didn't make it to EHC. What I'm asking is I can't believe a vendor would name their company something like that... I'm not the kind of person who is easy to offend, but I know I probably would never accept a catalog, or order anything from a company with that kind of name. I have kids!!! LOL
I would not let them place an add in my magazine either, no way would I steer people to something that might offend people. I personally am not offended but I could see how some could be.
The guy seems to make some cool stuff but the name...OUCH!
05-05-2008, 05:04 AM
I have to admit that I was taken aback by the name as well. Seems to go against many marketing principles.
05-05-2008, 06:48 AM
Evidently, through an exhuastive advertising and marketing campaign, all they could come up with is " Fucked up Stuff." I also love vendors that tell you nothing about who they are, where they are, our what garage they are working out of.
05-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Either a good name or a bad name it has its purpose....to stick in your head and make you go OH. I bet thats what they were thinking when they named the company that. Remember that negative stuff sticks in your head far longer then the good stuff
05-05-2008, 07:17 PM
05-05-2008, 10:28 PM
I have NO clue why someone would name their business like that... like someone said the media attention I guess.
I would like to talk to this guy and ask him this very question for the next magazine. Personally I think it makes MHC look bad...
MHC put restrictions on Scareparts (cash and carry) only... I applaud them for that, because even if they're wrong in putting on thore restrictions, clearly they are only looking out for their buyers!!! I really can't believe someone would do that but that makes you feel you can trust MHC for sure. Kudos...even though again I think Scareparts is fine and will take orders and deliver them this year.
But to have a vendor like that on your rosters...hmmmm.
Several years back a vendor came to Transworld and had all these latex breasts, penis parts and other nude bloody body parts, and they made them remove everything or they would kick them out of the show. Additionally they had another vendor remove videos with racial sensitive materials on them.
I personally wouldn't like a vendor like that from my website or let them display at my show unless they had a different name and a different URL. Its just a total classless name and gives an outstanding group like MHC something I'm sure many will scratch their heads over when they see this booth and the name on the booth.
Just my two cents!
05-06-2008, 07:06 AM
I can see where there might be some problems with the name for some people, but you have to admit we are a group that stands on the fringe already...I mean how many of your "normal" friends enjoy a well displayed murder scene? The name made me copy the link to take a quick look at as soon as I finish typing up this post. Depending on the age restrictions of the show floor I do not see this as a problem, I mean almost every booth has a half naked mutilated female body...mmmm I do love this industry *cough* sorry got side tracked for a moment. That's the crazy thing about obscenity it is truely a personal thing.
On another note I look forward to making this show as I had to miss transworld and did not get my haunt con fix for the year...really starting to get the shakes this thing needs to hurry up. I mean what's a doctor to do when his drug of choice is half naked mutilated female bodies and the guys won't let you in the haunt.
(The opinions expressed by the doctor are not those of Graystone Manor and it's staff...because there is something wrong with the doctor as we say in the south "He aint right")
05-06-2008, 10:00 AM
Although the name is politically incorrect, I have to say that the doctor just brought up something that kinda blows my mind....
He made the statement about our group being on the fringe .
I cannot tell you how many times I have been repremanded by fellow haunters because of something I have created CROSSING THE LINE.... who drew this line? I can understand JOEPUBLIC saying that a Autopsied baby may be distasteful and that the fetus flinger is just wrong, but having a group of my peers judge me for being over the line..... surprises me beyond belief.
05-06-2008, 11:10 AM
Speaking of marketing principles... Anyone see the anti-smoking ads where this smartass guy goes around doing stupid things in an attempt to thwart the tobacco companies? Their campaign is called "whudafxup". Not quite as blatant as "Fuck'd up Stuff", but i was still floored that they were allowed to take a phrase that would TOTALLY not be allowed on TV and change spelling, abbreviate, and all of a sudden it's okay.
05-06-2008, 11:30 AM
As far as the vendor setting up at MHC, it's not like MHC is a department store who made the decision to sell the "Fuck'd up Stuff" line of clothing. It's a tradeshow. Their job is to bring in vendors who have nice things to sell, regardless of what the business is called. I don't think it makes MHC look bad at all. If they have good stuff, I'd buy from them. They got balls, that's for sure. AND! If they don't sell a lot of horror props, they could probably sell that domain name for a few pennies! Credit where due.
05-06-2008, 11:48 AM
I agree with Larry and Barry on this one. I know that certain people go for shock value but I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with a name like that. If you know anything at all about marketing you would not use a name like that no matter what business you are into.
I have kids as well and there is no way in the world a catalog with that name would be in my house...nooo way.
05-06-2008, 11:53 AM
I want an autopsied baby, I have such a sweet idea for its use in my lab, I did a baby in a jar and got more than one or two "that is just two much" comments. I am of the mind if it makes you uneasy I did my job. Of course it's a fine line I have to walk to do what I imagine and still keep it in the PG13 range for our haunt. We have caught flack before from the local churches just because we are a haunt, and sometime I have to be reigned in by the other guys or I would have us doing human sacrafice but all and all I usually find away to get my demented way.
05-06-2008, 05:26 PM
Wow... F-up stuff has horrible marketing! Wait a sec... hasn't just about every poster said somehing about them? Good or bad, they got you guys talking! Seems pretty smart to me!
05-06-2008, 07:04 PM
I visited their booth at EHC last weekend. Actually a decent bunch ofr guys. Although I had similar reactions to yours it didn't really bother me until I saw young teens wearing their shirts. Says "Got maggots?" on the front which is pretty cool but the F'd up logo\name is on the back. They do make an attempt at making some of the letters not so easy to read so you really have to get up close to know what it says. They did have nice products and my kids weren't with me so It was okay with me. Then again I bought a Kim's Krypt t-shirt (right next store to f'd up stuff at EHC) for my 4 year old. To each his own. I'd buy their products but wouldn't allow their name to be anywhere my customers could pick up on it.
05-06-2008, 07:44 PM
They sound like they doing what they set out to do and thats get people talking so the question is, is it really that bad of marketing, is it wrong ??? i guess thats up to the individual, but lets face it i bet any money people went to there website and looked at there products!!!So maybe its wrong or brilliant you be the judge.
05-06-2008, 08:32 PM
I think you all would agree with me here the name has people talking. Am I not proof of that? I mean hell look at all whos had Shane & Graystone on the brain! LMAO am I right or am I right? I know someone is going to jump on this come on guys sock it to me!!!!!! Whoooooooooo its not fun unless your having fun!! Shane Graystone
05-06-2008, 11:01 PM
In case you didn't hear... Scareparts has announced they will NO LONGER display at MHC. I don't blame them either. For one they have to be cash and carry only, which again I understand MHC is thinking about the buyers, based on all these attacks on message boards.
And secondly because of all the slamming going on against them. I think some of it might have been warranted but overall I think every professional line has been crossed here.
You must remember Scareparts did in fact deliver 85% or so of all orders... he took to many orders and couldn't fill them. Yes, indeed he let you down, he took your money, and didn't deliver, he got in over his head. Does that mean we should say 'float down the river' and just endless tirades about a guy? From my understanding he's already settled EVERYTHING but maybe a couple situations and he's working on fixing them ALL!
This has gone way to far if you ask me.
I think some vendors might look at some of the postings and choose not to sell to those people. I've already talked to vendors who said they will refuse to sell Shane anything. Whether that is right or wrong is beside the point. I do think and so no one slams me here... YOU SHOULD GET YOUR PRODUCT or your money back 110%.
I think there is an avenue to do that when you have a problem... heck if they advertise in my magazine TELL ME! I'll get on their case...
I doubt ANY VENDOR would ever want to go through this nightmare!
In the future lets try other ways to resolve these issues!
I will say that frustration can get the best of you, and you can't take them to task and post on message boards. But it should be a last resort, try all other avenues to work these things out.
FOR YEARS I HAVE been getting emails from people telling me about their problems with a vendor... I've passed EVERY email onto those vendors, EVERY SINGLE ONE!
You subscribe to my magazine, they advertise in our magazine, I will help you if I can, as long as we don't see another mess like this.
The last thing we want is to not have Scareparts or any vendor bring new product to shows, and be part of the haunted community!
Scareparts has apologized and tried to fix their problems.
Lets give him a chance to make his word good! In the meantime, lets talk about our haunts and stop focusing on all the negative stuff.
I'm sorry to hear Scareparts won't be attending MHC, but there is always next year!
05-06-2008, 11:15 PM
For what is is worth, Yes I think Shane went overboad with his slamming. however, I can understand his frustration in being a small haunt and getting ripped off $5000.00 That would piss me off too. Larry, I dont think you understand what $5000 means to some of us smalll fries. At least I wonder cause you keep bragging how you spend a LOT more than that on your haunt. For many haunts, $5000 is a LOT of money, perhaps equivalent to you getting ripped off $50,000. From what I have read, Shane has been promised OVER and OVER a refund or product from Keith, and he has not been taken care of, so yeah, I can understand his anger.
On a side note, after hearing from Shane, I contacted Keith, willing to possibly place an order with him and give him the benifit of doubt. After I emailed him and waiting 3 weeks for a reply, he emailed me back saying to call his cell. I did +left 2-3 messages on his voice mail, and after another 2-3 weeks he called me. You know what, my spidy senses were tingling and I figure that if he is that busy or unorganized, I can not really trust his business.....
05-06-2008, 11:31 PM
I don't disagree with you...its hard to do business with people who don't call you back. Seems that is a common complaint about a great deal of vendors.
I think the problem here is most of these vendors are ONE MAN SHOWS...
There are 2000 plus haunted houses, and a vendor running a one man show, its just impossible to call everyone back. What it really comes down to is this... hire an office manager or don't grow! Period!
It takes money to make money... get you someone to answer the phone or just don't grow its really that simple.
Our company has one full time salesperson, one office manager, and one part time person who does things like that, all to do handle all the calls, complaints, you name it. I can't answer every call myself!
But I agree with you!
05-06-2008, 11:40 PM
I hear what you are saying ,and i feel bad for scareparts , but if you dont come through with your promise and product then how are people to believe in you???? The fact is scareparts are ohio boys just like me and ohio is all about haunting. So were does the trust begin after being screwed???? and most of all the people still waiting on product since 2007. To me this is a very sour thing to swallow , i personally have nothing against keith and he is truly a nice guy, but to say they delievered 85% of there orders is bullshit !!! lets say you only recieve 85% of your haunts money would you be happy??? I think its safe to say you would not be happy. at this point i think the question should be, how can the haunted house community accept scareparts with confidence.. and i truly believe they will find a way to make everyone happy again !!! scareparts is a very good thing for this industry, however angry customers are the worst and not to be fucked with!!!!!
These are just my thoughts and i am most definetly not perfect!!!
p.s sorry if i upset anyone
05-07-2008, 04:53 AM
I'm not saying delivering 85% of what you promised is good enough...
I'm not saying that Scareparts isn't wrong... I'm simply saying give a guy a chance to fix the problems, and do it on a professional way. Try all avenues first... maybe all avenues where tried and this was the only way. Okay but... 5 zillion posts, threats and more c'mon. Its too far!
We need to work on resolving problems not making them worse. That is what I'm saying. Larry
05-07-2008, 05:14 AM
A couple of quick points:
1. MHC did NOT stipulate that anyone had to be cash and carry only.
2. Why does almost every thread in here turn into this topic??
05-07-2008, 06:52 AM
First XXXDirk,Jason and everyone Thanks for understanding my cause espically you Jason because your a Vendor. I want to make 1 quick point I ordered from ScareParts in Febury of 2007 like everyone my Haunt is open in October NOT November or December. Also I paid for my items in full end of April. I ONLY CAME HERE IN FEBUARY just shy of a year because I had no other choice I had already tried everything else and Larry did offer a Vendor Issues section. Now you make the judgement what would you do? Lastly on this Larry just who are the vendors who wont be selling to me. Are they vendors who take money and dont ship products on time? Are they vendors who lie? Are they vendors who send out 85% of their products and forget about the remaining 15%? Are they vendors who after they have your money turn their back on you? Are they vendors who only wont to be in this industry for a short time because they want to makea fast dishonest buck? If so, then Larry they have noting to worry about because I will not be buying from them anyway. Also let me add and I could be wrong but I think Larry does get huge discounts not because he is as much wealthy as its a perk you get, Myself I assure you I can match Larry dollar for dollar because I am a hard working person who owns and runs a honest company. But its not the point of how rich you are or poor you are. (Although XXXDirk I do so Thank You for your support and understand where your coming from) But the point is no matter if its 50 dollars or 50,000 dollars if you payed for it and asked for it by a certin time and did not get it on time or at all then you were lied to and ripped. Now back to Berry and MidWest I am so sure that all your hard work is going to pay off Berry with an awsome show! And my hats off to you and your hard work. Guys lets get back to Berry and his show and post your thoughts on his show. Shane Graystone
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