Clean up this business....

[Octoberalles]

One final thought towards your last post. At no time did I say that you were wrong for your beliefs or how you do business, but you are without a doubt telling all other owners to tone it down for the sake of the industry.

Perhaps that would be good for the industry, theres no telling....maybe the house that they have in NYC where you need to walk through alone after signing a waiver will be the wave of the future. Only time will tell.

[Jim Warfield]

Funny Thing...

After I read these first few posts today and left mine, I had an appointment with a college photog student. She told me she had lived in Ken. and purposely stayed away from a haunt there that advertised itself as "Exotic".??
Then she told me about a haunt in a small Iowa town (6,000 pop.)about 50 miles from me that scared so many small children so much that the city banned any haunts from ever being put on there again!
She also told me an interesting ghost story. She lived in a haunted house where her brother sat in a chair, then the cushion between his legs sank and there was the sensation of someone sitting between his legs! He never came back to her house again!
The house was built on the location of a previous house which burnt down, killing the Marylin Monroe impersonator who lived there.
So the ghost of a woman who looked like a sexy actress sat on his lap? And he didn't like it?
Wait a second, she never said if the impersonator was a man or a woman..never mind.

[extreme evil]

Hopefully you aren't running a haunt that amounts to much. I agree with the others. I can scare the hell out of people without using employees from "Sluts R Us"

[extreme evil]

I find your whole attitude offensive. I'm not telling you how to run your business but I hope it doesn't catch on. Maybe you should look into the Porn Industry. I'm sure they'd welcome you with open arms.

[jimmyfish]

I always think it is funny when someone goes on a rant against someone and then that person replies back and eventually they are both appologizing to each other and they kind of makeup lol. It happens on almost every board I have been on. You can say almost anything to anyone as long as you paraphrase it with all due respect, as in with all due respect.....you are an @$$hole lol.

Anyway on the subject of sex in haunts, I think to each his/her own, As long as you let people know it will be in there before they enter. Then they can make the decision and you will know at the end of the season if it worked or not.

[extreme evil]

You're looking for someone to argue with and to justify running a house that most don't agree with, plus you're hoping to impress everyone with your intelligence level by talking down to them. It's not going to work. Most of the people on here have been doing this for many years and are not concerned with your opinion or your single digit IQ. Please spare us all any more of your posts with your inane babbling.

[Octoberalles]

if you are referring to me, you need to stop while you are ahead.
He asked for thoughts and opinions in his first post in case you didn't notice. If he wanted confirmation opinions, he should have asked for them. I am in the dissenting opinion, so does that render mine pointless? If so, then I shouldn't even bother with this forum.....apparently debating is frowned upon....agree or dont speak. Sounds like Nazi Germany.

First off, i wasn't even addressing you. You must be the tiny kid that sticks his head in between the adults as they talk. Trying to throw in a witty statement to rile it back up.

Secondly, it was a debate between me and another member, I was respectful of his thoughts until he told me "you must not have ever dealt with..." then we had our spat, fairly civilized I would say as well.

Furthermore, you are the one that has drudged up a conversation that ended with us apologizing....so who's the antagonist?

Go away child, your thoughts are wasted.

We agreed to disagree. which makes your thoughts on our conversation moot. Also, your statement,"single digit IQ" is humorous...this coming from someone with "extreme" in his name...it hurts..haha

[Howie Slobber Erlich]

Octoberalles,

Please don't stop posting your opinions. You are one of the few who does not always agree with the masses. It is pathetic how many people on this forum have no guts or balls. Most of the time, all they are are little sheep just following the majority. It is refreshing to see someone post their true feelings instead just going along with flock. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who ever speaks his mind on this forum without regard for who might disagree or what other people may think about me. I speak the truth and am not afraid to say what's on my mind. I can listen to peoples opinions without getting angry or over defensive but most on here can't. I am used to getting bashed for everything I ever do. I come up with creative ideas all the time that people are afraid of or don't like. Most of the time I truly believe that they are jealous or wishing they would have thought of it first. It is nice to see posts from people who are willing to stand up for what they believe in without being pressured to agree with everyone else. I say hooray for you!

Howie "Slobber" Erlich
Deadly Intentions Haunted Attraction
www.deadlyintentionshaunt.com

[Octoberalles]

I appreciate the words Howie. I've lurked on this site for years and never spoke up about anything. Recently some old haunt friends popped up and I joined the site to bounce ideas, opinions etc off the community, but lo and behold, its like most forums...If your opinion isn't the same as ours, we'll flame you.

Like I told the OP, if someone was bashing his house for not being risque enough, I would be the first to jump to his defense.

I thought this was open for debate but apparently the bashers "know whats good for the industry".

Fine.

I'll go back to the shadows and not post on here, not a big deal to me...i'm a fairly good observer...I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.

Hopefully one day I'll get the chance to work at your haunt on an adults only night

talk to ya soon.

[bodybagging]

I'm a bad boy!

[Tater]

Hey Howie

Next time you have an adults night I wanna be there

[badass]

omg gore and seductive vamps in a haunted house..thats horrible and disgusting and has no place in this industry...

until its for sale at the convention
and anyone who doesn't have a creative bone can purchase it..

then its don't be upset..
its just how business is done...

peace to all on here who agree or dis agree..

this board spent 2 years putting the Hooch down..
for its over the top attractions..

til you come and experience it..
and see its not just gore..
its not just seductive hillbillys with chainsaws..
its a mixture of thousands of ingredients that sells tickets..

its a passion for following your own personal dream
and making it come to life..

we all have different taste..
and the Hooch tries to please them all..

and i think thats what adds up to a successful event

[scrymnstr]

I realize that a lot of haunt goers are becoming jaded. What used to work well at scaring a decade ago does not seem to be as effective. Do I blame haunts like house of shock or haunted hoochie for racheting up the level of intensity or pushing the boundries of the norm? Oh hell no!
Haunts are a form of art and art is not "safe"

[soulhasdied]

My 2 cents and not that it means a damn thing but I applaud anyone who is
willing to push the envelope a bit. I have been to Deadly Intentions on Adult
night and it was off the hook!!! I don't own a haunt but have been working in them for the past 15+ years. I hope one day to be a owner, and will probably have a "Adult Only" night.. Just because I believe there is a market for it..It's not for everyone but this is why we have freedom to choose... If you don't like it don't go!!! On the same token don't come walking through a haunt that I'm working at and ask me to take it easy because you decided to bring your child out at 11pm on a weekend night. Anyway just my ranting I just don't like it when a few people like to decide what is good for the whole.

[Speculo]

It is very simple. Live up to your marketing. It you want to be extreme let them know and there should not be a problem. Extreme gets a certain crowd and cuts out a lot of folks, just like in the movie business, if you want to go down that road take it.

Last year I got calls about Hoochie, and I told them they are extreme and they don't hide it! Anyone going to that show should know before they walk in that door exactly what they are getting into. No problem.

None of us wants to be content sensors since we are all artists and don't want to be censored ourselves.

Now on the greater scope of the industry as a whole a lot of effort has been taken to elevate what we do in the eyes of the public, that we are professional, safe, and fun ways to spend an October evening.

A few "extreme" events don't really hurt that, they might in fact add zest, but we all should be mindful that we are in this together, and that we want the world to view us in a positive light.

So IMO just let em know WHAT YOU do and hopefully you won't get in trouble...

Thanks!