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Patrick, I think you hit on it exactly and I have mentioned (bitched) about it before. If someone writes a book it is only one mans story, if everyone contributes you have different perspectives, even some summary of how to view your specific location and market that would be useful.
Everyone dumps themselves onto this forum and claimes to be a wealthy respected businessman with lots of contacts and a reputation to uphold in the community wanting to do a million dollar haunt. In reality they are a pest control man that doesn't have enough money to buy a new tire or a 13 year old kid and his parents won't let him pig out the garage to pursue his mass fortune.
If you really had lots of money and began spending the big bucks, you would mispend yourself into disaster. If you don't have any money or a limited budget every year to build on, it may take 15 years to buld a business and really know what you are doing. There are a mutitides of in between successes where partnerships were formed and the money was found, they had great quick starts but years later think they can sell or lease this type if business.
It can be done creatively with taking the materials that are available and repurposing them into something haunted. You can get help with a location by someone else that wouldn't mind making a little extra money rather than assigning them the title of landlord, partner or bastard that takes my money. If your business plan includes going out on a regular schedule to dive into specific dumsters, then a business plan might help other wise it is a waste of time and a things to do list and ehat to to first is more in order.
The term business plan only refers to a document you would provide investors or the banker that is going to fund your scheme. If no one ever sees it, that is a things to do list, maybe a flow chart of what has to happen in tandem to get the project done an outline of what is of priority.
And there are total business strategies that make the end gains a little sweeter but no one seems to learn those buzz words, they never figure out the earned savings part, the getting help in numbers part, the only attracting people that are genuinely intrested part. Instead they lie about how much money they have, mortgage their home, don't know how to develop a market and lose their ass and everyone elses.
Something Obama said, business need the right to fail. Sure if some sucker thought he could have a business and make it rich in 2 years and then retire early and instead spent too much on the wrong things and failed, the general economy wins if everyone is a victim. The trick is NOT to be a victim, to be a business man. To have really learned from some creative applications of what others have done.
Plus one needs to be realistic. I was attracted because I saw people building technology I was familiar with, I saw people sculpting and painting things to an end that made an income. I didn't see spend $150,000 to $650,000 to 1.2 million dollars from this. I didn't even see living some comfortable lifestyle. That had nothing to do with it. Being able to apply my skills and being proud of what I can do was all I saw. Now of course you have to make $20 every once in a while.
Does being a haunter include a dental plan, a new pair of glasses every year, a wardrobe and work clothes expense, medical insurance, life insurances, social security at the highest rate, a retirement plan? Probably not. You are being a dumbass making things from used wood and plastic bags. You are collecting crap the industrial revolution used to disguard and now the country has been cleared of scrap and now everyone else is broke and selling used plywood at a price like it is the russian black market. How financially successful do you think you are going to be? How much actual return in dollars would you expect from such behavior.
And if you do make it, you don't think the state tax man will pop up, you don't think someday there might be issues with how you pay or do not pay your staff and actors? You don't think the landlord had a better dream for his property, it could be doctors offices and all these tattooed people keep showing up with their scary looking rides and it could be the country club set. Are you brilliant enough as an individual to be participating all of these communties? Or have you had to pick a place in the ghetto to fit in. How many people will make the challenge to drive into the ghetto after dark and what substances are they using on a regular basis to not be concerned about that.
How do you find a balance? Do you have a spouce with a trust fund and a place to live? Are you actually also in a government pension from military service or disability? Are you parlaying unemployment checks into an investment? Did you inherit land or a business? Are you sitting on your mommas couch and there arre still a few crumbs in the fridge and they still have cable TV? And you have a dream? Perhaps society would say you are thinking wrong kind of dream.
What it is you, just one idiot has somehow been left on the curb with no money, sitting in the 100 degree temperatures and you are feeling hungry. What do you ask people. Where do you wander off to. What skills can you muster to make $20. Then how hard do you work to meet those basic needs and also invest in your dream. Is it uncermountable? Or is there a natural flow to developing a perspective of what is around you, who is around you and how do you connect with the world at large.
Plus over time, like even over the last 30 plus years even the materials have changed. what things have been made out of might not have been the optimum exact structures, it had to do with price and availablity. What happens in the future. What materials are new and being developed that might improve cost per square foot figures and get the job done? Where is the tech minute devoted to haunted houses. Everyone seems to have the now a word from out sponsors name I shall now say half a dozen times part right.
What are you going to do for a day job and not be thought of as some kind of horror freak that would hold you back on making a living? You don't think it matters that you don't fit in with the people you work for, the way bosses think or people that might subcontract your work think your life should be to match their product or service life style image? Have you become a bottom feeder? Do you go to the country club and enter through the service entrance? How do you work your way up out of the ghetto. Or can you. Can you stay in one place or should you plan on moving every few years or even every year. Is that displaying success or failure.
Can you really turn used crap and dumpster finds into cash or barter personal net worth? What is the outward appearence of your establishment. Is it a crappy metal building just like all the others with a banner on it? How exciting is that!
How comes no one every buys the property and leases out some of it and in effect having a full time income to build crap out of dumpster finds. Where is the financial base that can make it happen. What responcibilities must you shun to be a success. Does spending $40 a night in a bar get you closer to your goals? Does getting completely polluted once a year at a haunt convention really help your networking effort? Does anyone really like you? Do you care? Should you care?
Does having a business before that you no longer have and had to close down really make you know all about business or does that mean you don't know yet. Or is there really some bigger fit into ecomomy of the world you have to understand.
The government is all worried about inflation and the debt of the nation, meanwhile the undocumented economy of disenfranchised people is totally solid is actually larger that the Gross National Product and is not in debst at all. I'm not talking illegal stuff like drugs or prostitution, all though that is there. Just the bartering of services and the resale of household items and materials, the savings people have in things they have accumulated are not on ANY books. Can you see how that other economy works? If you are in that other economy are you a low life or are you what is refered to as street smart.
Can any of this be sifted down into a philosophy that really works. Can haunters even read. When will I finally have an aneurism and make this all stop. Can I live on my disability earning.
Everyone dumps themselves onto this forum and claimes to be a wealthy respected businessman with lots of contacts and a reputation to uphold in the community wanting to do a million dollar haunt. In reality they are a pest control man that doesn't have enough money to buy a new tire or a 13 year old kid and his parents won't let him pig out the garage to pursue his mass fortune.
If you really had lots of money and began spending the big bucks, you would mispend yourself into disaster. If you don't have any money or a limited budget every year to build on, it may take 15 years to buld a business and really know what you are doing. There are a mutitides of in between successes where partnerships were formed and the money was found, they had great quick starts but years later think they can sell or lease this type if business.
It can be done creatively with taking the materials that are available and repurposing them into something haunted. You can get help with a location by someone else that wouldn't mind making a little extra money rather than assigning them the title of landlord, partner or bastard that takes my money. If your business plan includes going out on a regular schedule to dive into specific dumsters, then a business plan might help other wise it is a waste of time and a things to do list and ehat to to first is more in order.
The term business plan only refers to a document you would provide investors or the banker that is going to fund your scheme. If no one ever sees it, that is a things to do list, maybe a flow chart of what has to happen in tandem to get the project done an outline of what is of priority.
And there are total business strategies that make the end gains a little sweeter but no one seems to learn those buzz words, they never figure out the earned savings part, the getting help in numbers part, the only attracting people that are genuinely intrested part. Instead they lie about how much money they have, mortgage their home, don't know how to develop a market and lose their ass and everyone elses.
Something Obama said, business need the right to fail. Sure if some sucker thought he could have a business and make it rich in 2 years and then retire early and instead spent too much on the wrong things and failed, the general economy wins if everyone is a victim. The trick is NOT to be a victim, to be a business man. To have really learned from some creative applications of what others have done.
Plus one needs to be realistic. I was attracted because I saw people building technology I was familiar with, I saw people sculpting and painting things to an end that made an income. I didn't see spend $150,000 to $650,000 to 1.2 million dollars from this. I didn't even see living some comfortable lifestyle. That had nothing to do with it. Being able to apply my skills and being proud of what I can do was all I saw. Now of course you have to make $20 every once in a while.
Does being a haunter include a dental plan, a new pair of glasses every year, a wardrobe and work clothes expense, medical insurance, life insurances, social security at the highest rate, a retirement plan? Probably not. You are being a dumbass making things from used wood and plastic bags. You are collecting crap the industrial revolution used to disguard and now the country has been cleared of scrap and now everyone else is broke and selling used plywood at a price like it is the russian black market. How financially successful do you think you are going to be? How much actual return in dollars would you expect from such behavior.
And if you do make it, you don't think the state tax man will pop up, you don't think someday there might be issues with how you pay or do not pay your staff and actors? You don't think the landlord had a better dream for his property, it could be doctors offices and all these tattooed people keep showing up with their scary looking rides and it could be the country club set. Are you brilliant enough as an individual to be participating all of these communties? Or have you had to pick a place in the ghetto to fit in. How many people will make the challenge to drive into the ghetto after dark and what substances are they using on a regular basis to not be concerned about that.
How do you find a balance? Do you have a spouce with a trust fund and a place to live? Are you actually also in a government pension from military service or disability? Are you parlaying unemployment checks into an investment? Did you inherit land or a business? Are you sitting on your mommas couch and there arre still a few crumbs in the fridge and they still have cable TV? And you have a dream? Perhaps society would say you are thinking wrong kind of dream.
What it is you, just one idiot has somehow been left on the curb with no money, sitting in the 100 degree temperatures and you are feeling hungry. What do you ask people. Where do you wander off to. What skills can you muster to make $20. Then how hard do you work to meet those basic needs and also invest in your dream. Is it uncermountable? Or is there a natural flow to developing a perspective of what is around you, who is around you and how do you connect with the world at large.
Plus over time, like even over the last 30 plus years even the materials have changed. what things have been made out of might not have been the optimum exact structures, it had to do with price and availablity. What happens in the future. What materials are new and being developed that might improve cost per square foot figures and get the job done? Where is the tech minute devoted to haunted houses. Everyone seems to have the now a word from out sponsors name I shall now say half a dozen times part right.
What are you going to do for a day job and not be thought of as some kind of horror freak that would hold you back on making a living? You don't think it matters that you don't fit in with the people you work for, the way bosses think or people that might subcontract your work think your life should be to match their product or service life style image? Have you become a bottom feeder? Do you go to the country club and enter through the service entrance? How do you work your way up out of the ghetto. Or can you. Can you stay in one place or should you plan on moving every few years or even every year. Is that displaying success or failure.
Can you really turn used crap and dumpster finds into cash or barter personal net worth? What is the outward appearence of your establishment. Is it a crappy metal building just like all the others with a banner on it? How exciting is that!
How comes no one every buys the property and leases out some of it and in effect having a full time income to build crap out of dumpster finds. Where is the financial base that can make it happen. What responcibilities must you shun to be a success. Does spending $40 a night in a bar get you closer to your goals? Does getting completely polluted once a year at a haunt convention really help your networking effort? Does anyone really like you? Do you care? Should you care?
Does having a business before that you no longer have and had to close down really make you know all about business or does that mean you don't know yet. Or is there really some bigger fit into ecomomy of the world you have to understand.
The government is all worried about inflation and the debt of the nation, meanwhile the undocumented economy of disenfranchised people is totally solid is actually larger that the Gross National Product and is not in debst at all. I'm not talking illegal stuff like drugs or prostitution, all though that is there. Just the bartering of services and the resale of household items and materials, the savings people have in things they have accumulated are not on ANY books. Can you see how that other economy works? If you are in that other economy are you a low life or are you what is refered to as street smart.
Can any of this be sifted down into a philosophy that really works. Can haunters even read. When will I finally have an aneurism and make this all stop. Can I live on my disability earning.
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