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  1. Default Silicone Masks, Overrated? 
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    Whats your guys opinion on silicone masks? Its not like customers can see a difference between silicone and latex. For film ok, but for a haunt, I just don't see the need. Most of the advantages of silicone are things that aren't needed in a haunt. Also you can buy 10-15 latex masks for the price of 1 silicone mask.
     

  2. Default Silicone Masks NOT overrated at all 
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    I disagree completely - I have tons of latex masks, they are great for background actors and quick scares.....but silicone masks make a huge difference when it comes to actors that interact face to face with the customers. What a silicone mask does is help blur that line of reality - people react completely different between a latex mask that hardly moves at all, and a silicone mask that moves with every expression an actor makes.

    They are great for line entertainment, news interviews, in your face actors, etc.

    So for me and the uses I have for them I don't think silicone masks are overrated at all, and will keep adding them to my box of tricks.
     

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    Silicone masks are great. We own several and I personally will never wear a latex mask again. However, you don't want silicone masks everywhere and in the dark they are a waste, so its not like they replace other masks and makeup. The other thing about silicone is it is hot as hell when its hot out and when its cold out it feels like you have a block of ice strapped to your face.
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    Jared,

    It's Silicone all the way for detail and realism. I have tried to stay away from latex masks for several years unless the are really unusual and top notch in detail. Instead, in most cases I believe that makeup is the best way to go. Makeup is by far the most comfortable and if you get a good artist, they really show the greatest detail. Plus, your only limitations are your makeup artists imagination. You would be surprised how many really good makeup artist are out there. Just put an ad on craigs list or even the help wanted section of Hauntworld and you will find people to interview. Make sure they bring a potfolio.

    By the way, give me a call at your convenience .

    Howie "Slobber" Erlich
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    There are advantages and disadvantages to all options.

    Silicone masks are great from a company like CFX. But now every Tom, Dick and Harry is making them now and they bring the quality way down. Buy from the right vendor and they are worth the investment.

    Latex is still going to be you primary mask for your average actors since silicone ones are so expensive. For quick scares they are still great just look for hight quality ones.

    Make up is quick and cheap but the vast majority of make up jobs you see in haunts are just that, quick and cheap. How common is it to see someone with a decent face made up but the neck and ears are untouched or the hands are untouched? It looks terrible!
    If you're going to do make up every job should be film quality and any exposed skin has to be covered or it will look lame no matter how cool the face looks.

    DA
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkangel View Post
    There are advantages and disadvantages to all options.

    Silicone masks are great from a company like CFX. But now every Tom, Dick and Harry is making them now and they bring the quality way down. Buy from the right vendor and they are worth the investment.

    DA
    There are several talented artists making silicone masks now and you don't have to pay the high end prices to get a quality mask. Yeah there are a couple that are in it and don't really know what they are doing , but the majority are making great masks , and the variety & competition will keep the prices down.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie Slobber Erlich View Post
    Jared,

    It's Silicone all the way for detail and realism. I have tried to stay away from latex masks for several years unless the are really unusual and top notch in detail. Instead, in most cases I believe that makeup is the best way to go. Makeup is by far the most comfortable and if you get a good artist, they really show the greatest detail. Plus, your only limitations are your makeup artists imagination. You would be surprised how many really good makeup artist are out there. Just put an ad on craigs list or even the help wanted section of Hauntworld and you will find people to interview. Make sure they bring a potfolio.

    By the way, give me a call at your convenience .

    Howie "Slobber" Erlich
    Deadly Intentions Haunted Attraction
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    I agree, I think GOOD makeup is your #1 best option. Silicone #2 in certain area's of a haunt. I personally don't like the way makeup feels on my face so thats why I suffer through the uncomfortable silicone masks. I tell you what though, if it was 90 degrees when we were running I would think twice about the silicone mask though. Cuz they are freaking hot. And I think if you can avoid latex masks I would. But this is just my opinion. I just don't find anything scary about the way a latex mask doesn't move at all when the actor is running around you screaming and the noise is kind of muffled anyway.

    I'll get a call to you this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siliconeskull View Post
    There are several talented artists making silicone masks now and you don't have to pay the high end prices to get a quality mask. Yeah there are a couple that are in it and don't really know what they are doing , but the majority are making great masks , and the variety & competition will keep the prices down.
    There are other guys other than CFX that are making great silicone masks but I've seen some crappy looking masks posted here and abroad and because it's created I'd silicone people sing it's praises but if I saw someone wearing these masks in question at a haunt I'd be more inclined to laugh at the actor rather than be fearful of him. It's not like latex, silicone masks require some unique skills that make it a bit more challenging for the weekend warrior sculptors.

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    Silicone is great! The latex masks just dont work any longer. Believe me, I have worn latex many years ago and the silicone moves like no other..
    Prostetics and makeup are the best way to go overall but for a great look when you dont have hours to sit in a make-up chair silcone mask can't be beat..
    I have some great latex mask if anyone want to buy them...
     

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    We make silicone masks, and here's my opinion without it being to one sided.

    There is definitely a time and place for both. I think everyone has the right idea about the latex masks being background scares and quick scares.
    Latex is great, in the right location in a haunt.

    In your entertainment area or line actors need either VERY good make up or a nice silicone mask, latex is just not an option for this.

    Make-up, from a good artist wins everytime. I personally used to use make-up (i did my own..) when i worked at a haunt, now this would take a few hours. If i were hired, each actor may take 1-2 hours for a nice quality job. Lets say thats 8 bucks an hour, times 4 because the actor needs paid too. Now thats $32 for just one night of make-up on one person... most haunts are open 12-15 nights a year. That's $540.... That will buy you a silicone mask, Ours are $399 and our half masks are about $250. That could buy you 2 of our silicone half masks! That pays for the mask in one season and it will last you season after season...

    All and all, it depends where you want to put your money. If you have the money to pay good make-up artists, and dont mind shelling out a bit more money, id say thats the best way to go in comfort and everything else. A good combination of both silicone masks and make-up is what i think alot of haunt are headed towards, latex just doesnt work. With the crazy horror films and movies people see coming out, they expect that level of "scare" and realistic effects that latex cannot do.

    Just my 2 cents...
     

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