Is your haunt making over $250,000 per year?

[Carnival of Frights]

Mike Honcho, I'm glad to know that you are the originator of that email that has been going around for weeks. Nice plagiarism.

Uptown Haunts, Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they are females or PMS-ing or whining or complaining. I see them stating facts that you happen to disagree with. Quit your griping about others expressing their views.

We are allowed to support Obama!

[Uptown Haunts]

$250k

I'd like someone to point out where I am being "selfish" on this tax topic. In these forums, one person will make a point, another will make a counter point. I've been in both of these positions but never realized how much my opinions and personal experiences would offend others. Including earning $2.10/hour and paying taxes on it. Wow, I'm gonna burn in Hell for that one. I'll probably burn in Hell for my contributions to Habitat for Humanity, AIDS research, Cancer research and various other worth while causes. None political.

I've already stated that if you agree with Osama Obama's Socialism platform, vote for him. If you have business sense and would like to see American companies create better jobs and stay in America, vote for McCain. Everybody has their own opinions, including me, but I get bashed for my opinions and then get bashed again for defending them or exercising my right to free speech. What's wrong with this picture?

Without success, there would be no jobs, movies, construction, cell phones, concerts, computers, cars/trucks, air lines, food, clothing, skate boards, banks, stocks, haunt industry equipment or supplies, etc. As a society, we need businesses (big and small) to be successful. If they are not successful, they disappear. So does all of the stuff I just mentioned above. The United States is a Capitalistic society. It depends very heavily on the dollar. With more dollars comes more of everything else. I'm not interested in Socialism. Okay, now for some more Uptown Haunts bashing....

[Mike Honcho]

Mike Honcho, I'm glad to know that you are the originator of that email that has been going around for weeks. Nice plagiarism.

Well I am glad to see that you got my emails hahah

[HauntedPhantom]

Dear Uptown Haunts,

I respect you as a person and I respect your right to free speech. I also don't believe the real issue is that you are 'being "selfish" on this tax topic.' However, I want you to understand the reason others are reacting so negatively to your posts, and therefore you think they are bashing you. This is simply because in the process of presenting your views, you continue to insult so many.

Not only do you insult Obama by calling him Osama Obama, but you insult females, especially those who currently have menstrual cycles which is likely most of them who view these boards, "Dumb-o-crats," and anyone who has business sense.

I happen to have excellent business sense. I have a college degree. I am not a minority or anyone else who has been handed anything. I am not lazy. I earned everything I have. I slowly worked my way up from nothing to making in the 6 digit range annually. I have absolutely no debt except my mortgage (no credit card or other debts). I am wise enough not to have lost any money due to our economy problems.

I am also wise enough not to listen to propaganda. I am well aware that almost all politicians will say what is necessary to reach their target audience in order to get their votes. And I realize that in order to save our failing economy, we are going to have to pay in some form, whether it's through sales tax, personal income taxes, business taxes, etc. Most politicians are saying now what they think they need to say in order to be elected. Then they will listen to their advisors and hopefully heed their advice and do what is best to save the economy from failing. Previous politicians have not always followed the recommendations of their advisors. I find it ironic that the recent bailout was for the amount required to finance the war in Iraq.

In all of my wisdom and with all of my terrific business sense, I voted for Barack Obama. I believe others should do the same.

Haunted Phantom

[Spookyfinder]

Just go vote... either way, America loses! jeez... -Tyler

[actiondeath]

Believe it or not, I am still on the fence. No idea who will better suit me and mine. I can't help it, based on facts, both sides have their good and bad qualities. I fear for Obama's well being if he's elected. As closed minded and intolerant as most of this country is, he may not make it till January. Also, the fact that Sarah Palin could possibly become the president scares the shit out of me.

Higher taxes will generate more revenue on a government level but, what does it do for the business owner? For one thing, it increases their operating costs. How do they compensate for this increase? Higher prices, lower pay for employees, no more benefits for their employees, lay offs, outsourcing to other countries to remain competitive, etc. Anybody with an I.Q. of less than 7 can figure that out.

This is what cracks me up! In the last 50 or so years, has there been a single presidential term, during which taxes and thus operating costs did not go up in some form or another? Has there been a single term during which product and service prices did not increase to compensate? Layoffs and outsourcing are happening NOW and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Someone somewhere was 'innovative' and 'revolutionary' in thinking "someone in the Philippines would probably do this job for PENNIES!" No law against it. Hell, they probably called it "The American Dream".

Bottom line... taxes will ALWAYS increase. Businesses will ALWAYS be forced to look for new ways to increase profits and cut costs. I completely understand anyone who doesn't like it. I hate the fact that any American company would have to lay people off or outsource in order to counter an increase in operating costs. It's a pain in the ass, but it IS part of your "American Dream". To think that any one president could EVER change this fact, to me, is naive and lazy.

[Uptown Haunts]

Finally!

I'd like to thank the last few respondents for taking the time to make mature, sensible comments in regard to their views, and mine, on this topic.

[Jordan24]

This is what cracks me up! In the last 50 or so years, has there been a single presidential term, during which taxes and thus operating costs did not go up in some form or another?

1980. Ronald Reagan came in after Jimmy Carter, lowered taxes and kept them low for his entire term. That worked out pretty well as far as the government generating revenue, government actually generated the most revenue ever at the time.

[HauntedPhantom]

I fear for Obama's well being if he's elected. As closed minded and intolerant as most of this country is, he may not make it till January. Also, the fact that Sarah Palin could possibly become the president scares the shit out of me.

Dear Action Death,

I hear you loud and clear on this and actually considered both parts when making my decision. I promise I'm not going to tell you how to vote, but I will say that our President will always have the utmost security we offer, and no matter how determined the intolerant masses are, we can't let that affect our decisions or that's just bowing to intolerance.

I will also say that if something were to happen to the President even with all of the security we have, and I certainly hope it never would, we have to consider who would take over as President because that's a reality. And the VP could take over if the President were to die because of completely unrelated issues, such as health, some freak accident, or any number of reasons which are probably more likely scenarios because of the extreme security surrounding the President.

I just thought I would share more of my thoughts on the matter. I realize it's not an easy decision. I wish us all only the best!

Haunted Phantom

[HauntedPhantom]

Dear Jordan24,

You may search the internet for more info on Reagan's tax increases, but he had two major ones that negated his big 1981 tax cut. You may read details of them at http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh060804.shtml and lots of other places online, but this one seems to sum up well how tax cuts are just covered in other ways.

Haunted Phantom

[Jim Warfield]

Where Does "Wealth" Come From?

In the American Dream it has usually involved finding a more militarilly backward country than your own and moving in to take the items of value, if they resit, kill them, sign worthless treaties, move them across a river with no food , let them starve, go to war in the spring and don't forget to kill all the women and children.
Later huge oil/fuel gulping bombers were made to do the dirty work from very high altitudes, a cleaner method, removing the sight of horrid death from the vision of the highly trained pilots.
The rich need more tax breaks so that money can be sent away to other workers working for pennys, that is where the jobs will be made, do those workers pay taxes to the US? No. We lose again. Good and smart move giving those wealthy people more money to" invest".
Maybe Henry Ford #1 is to blame? He always had another supplier working just a little cheaper just a few more miles down the road to replace his present supplier if that guy got more greedy. Now that road goes to China and Bangladesh, soon to extend large open air workshops where starving Chimps wil be trained and tortured to operate machines for a mere banana (of questionable quality?)

[shawnc]

Dear Uptown Haunts,

However, I want you to understand the reason others are reacting so negatively to your posts, and therefore you think they are bashing you.

Haunted Phantom

I don't think there are that many "others" here. It looks like some joined just to post on this thread. Maybe Larry can look into that.

I also disagree with the concept of The American Dream as some have described it here. "Dream" sounds way too easy, and shame on those of you who say that the people on the bottom have no shot at it. Just gets lots of sleep and you will eventually get everything you want? In reality, you better set goals and work hard towards them, not just at your job to pay your bills. Dreaming isn't going to get it done, and calling it The American "Dream" has evidently led millions to believe that it's easier than it is.

[Uptown Haunts]

I have a Dream

Martin Luther King had a dream.....
Think about it.

[WeAreTheUnion]

I'd like to thank the last few respondents for taking the time to make mature, sensible comments in regard to their views, and mine, on this topic.

Pot...calling...kettle...black...
If you don't think that my responses were mature and sensible, then I think you need a mirror with which to take a good look at yourself, a band-aid for your boo-boo, and if necessary perhaps I could also call for a wahhmbulance.
I speak bluntly and will always refuse to tip-toe around issues. I will also refuse to apologize for that. This does not mean I am attacking you. My BELIEF is that people who share your views on taxes/wealth/etc. are selfish and money-hungry. I did not say "you're a selfish prick and should go fuck yourself," I simply stated that I was taught that refusing to help those in need is, in fact, selfish. I understand now that you claim to donate to charities and that is a righteous thing to do. Are you a selfish person? I don't know, probably not. Are your views on taxes selfish? Absolutely.
It is my right to respond to anything you say or do, just as it is your right to respond to anything I or anyone else says or does. I think now is a good time to emphasize that you also have the right to walk away, so the fact that you continued to respond nullifies any whining (yes, whining - isn't choice of words a fun game?) you may feel entitled to. If the conversation was too "immature" or for you (which I find hard to believe), then perhaps you should have avoided name-calling in the first place, and then you should have just left it alone. Something tells me you're not really offended so much by my tone, could it be you realize I'm right and a majority of the country now agrees with me? Hmmm...
I fired back against your offensive comments with a tone of arrogance and anger, because you have to fight fire with fire. You set the tone of the argument with comments like oral office, osama obama, etc. Further, I never ONCE stooped to the level of name-calling you or your candidate of choice, a feat which you failed to manage at multiple stops along the way.
So...who's the immature one? I'm lost.

[Uptown Haunts]

No apology necessary

I've never refused help to anyone who needed it and probably never will unless I am unable to do so. I don't believe my views on taxes is selfish at all. Based on my business practices, more money for the company means more money available that can be spent on my employees, charities, etc. I didn't know that was such a selfish thing. Remember, I started working at $2.10/hr compared to your $7.15/hr regardless of the time frame.

Rather than "cherry pick" my words like the Left Wing media, you may want to read all of them and see that I also pointed out that there are already numerous programs available to those who need help in various ways. I also stated that I needed this assistance at one time in my life so, yes, I was one of those people you always whine about but I turned down the food stamps. All I took was the medical card which covered 100% of all medical bills if necessary. Was I being selfish? If so, wouldn't that make others in the position you speak of selfish? Giving nothing or almost nothing and expecting something in return.

With Osama Obama's tax plan, he will pull more working capital out of the economy. Where does it go? Will Osama Obama share it with you? With me? With others around the country? I found out today that Osama Obama asked his supporters to continue contributing to his campaign fund. The election's over. Who is being selfish now? Since you seem to be the expert and claim to be "right", could you explain this whole thing to me and the rest of the Haunt World community? I'd really appreciate that.

If you find my comments offensive, I won't apologize and you really need to grow up. Your choice of words doesn't seem to be too "flowery" either. I'm neither angry nor arrogant. Just voicing my opinions based on experience. Remember, I've been dealing with Dumb-O-Crats bashing me, due to my accidental relationship to my political parents, since 1964. I didn't choose this path but it still continues today. Should I just sit back and say nothing? If so, could you demonstrate by example? I highly doubt it.