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  • #16
    We get along with most of the local haunts. We trade nights with a couple, sending our actors there and theirs come see us for free. We try to send at least a few of our people to the ones we don't trade with so they can see just what the other haunts are up to and how they are different than us. We always remind them to act as they would want customers to act in our haunt.

    Our ticketing booth and parking lot have the directions and prices for the other haunts in the area and give them out freely.

    Over the years we have helped when we can. One guy built a room in our haunt, the next year he built a small haunt co-located with us, then told us we didn't know what we were doing and went across town to build his own place. This year was his third and final year in business.

    This year we did co-advertising and ticketing with a new haunt down the road which helped us both out.

    Our creative side also designed a haunt in FL for disabled children a couple of years ago.

    We do have one local haunt that does not care for us. They tell people we are not very good and have gone as far as to call us "pornographic" to the customers that ask about us. One of their "associates" sold himself as a 'haunt expert' to a local paper a few years back and was hired to write the reviews. As you can guess, he raved about his own place and trashed everyone else. A not so nice call to the editor got a second review, but by then the damage was done. When we approached the owners about it, their answer was they had nothing to do with it and could not control one person's actions. (They did not fire him)

    All in all, we feel that haunt feed off each other and it is better to get along than to fight and bicker. There is enough of that out there the rest of the year.

    What comes around goes around!

    Nat
    Asylum House
    www.theasylumhouse.com

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    • #17
      I guess we're fortunate in that the haunts in our area really seem to want to work together to cross-promote. Some of the area haunts even put together a Masquerade Party in the largest park in Joplin and brought in a DJ and hosted contests for the public including costume contest, dance contest, pet costume contest, etc. They invited all the area haunts to come in and set up tents to promote their individual haunted houses. It was a great opportunity to meet the other haunt owners and actors. This year we displayed a bulletin board at our haunt that contained at least 6 or 7 other haunts flyers/posters. We also handed out a package of flyers for the other haunts to each person purchasing tickets at the Ticket Window. We even allowed the other haunts to display signs at the end of our drive for people to see as they drove out of our parking lot. A number of the haunts returned the favor by distributing our club cards and displaying our poster. We hope this helped the other haunts and our guests.

      Having said that, I do have to admit that I did hear a couple of rumors of people from other haunts giving mis-information about our attractions and speakly poorly of them. I believe our reputation is good enough that this type of activity isn't effective though and I try not to worry too much about it. We'll just keep working hard to raise the tide so all our boats can be elevated together. We'd love to see Joplin become known as a true Halloween destination. With all the haunted attractions, hay rides and haunted trails in Joplin I believe we can and are seeing this happen.

      Kel
      Last edited by Raycliff Manor; 11-14-2009, 07:40 AM.
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      Kelly Allen
      Raycliff Manor Haunted Attraction
      www.RaycliffManor.com
      www.Facebook.com/RaycliffManor
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      • #18
        Houdini Knew "How"!

        He would come into a town for a few days, letters would get published in the local papers, letters saying his show was second-rate compared to the show across the street and vice-versa.
        All of this letter writing stirred up public intrest and people would comparsion shop, seeing both magicians.
        Many years later it was discovered that the "Other" magician was Houdini's brother!
        He was doing Houdini's show from the previous season.
        A little such controversy , handled right could stimulate business.......
        hauntedravensgrin.com

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        • #19
          don't mind competition

          Where I am it isn't the competition that bothers me so much as the whining. The way the other haunters feel that they should not have to comply with the same rules that others do. Yet if something were to happen at their haunt its ok that it would cause problems for those complying. There is a home haunter that decided this year to say that for an 8.00 donation someone would get a ticket to their haunt. To me that is not a donation that is charging and it does not matter whether they make a profit or not. If this haunter wants to compete with the haunts in the area then play by the same rules. Pay sales tax on the money, abide by the same codes. No they just whine because they shouldn't have to do the things to keep people safe like sprinklers, firewalls or hardwired smoke detectors. They want to use black plastic, and when someone says anything its you are trying to shut everyone down. No just trying to protect my haunt from more unnecessary regulations. If you can't afford to do it right I say don't do it and wreck it for the rest. Talked to state legislators who said if it states that sprinklers are to be used and they are not and something happens they would outlaw haunts in the STATE. That is not fair to those who follow the rules.

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          • #20
            This kinnda happened to us, we spent tons of money and time advertising our haunt, we went to events, put up flyers, etc.. i go into a couple of buissneses, to see if they needed more flyers and it turned out another company came in and tore our flyers down and put theres up, we were livid, but we just put even more back up, and it turns out that the other haunt did terrible that year and it was there last year...i strongly believe in supporting and advertising your haunt, but not disrespecting others....

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            • #21
              Many of us Iowa haunters get along great and sometimes have small meet and greets to catch up with each other in the off season. In 08 we even went on a tour of a local haunt, it was great to get together!

              Also a haunt owner from Cedar Rapids put together Haunted Iowa (www.hauntediowa.com) to list some of the haunts Iowa. Each haunt listed was given a stack of fliers to hand out at their haunt to help promoted each other - it was a great success! I'm hoping to help make the site even bigger and better for this year!
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              Zach Wiechmann
              www.frontyardfright.com

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              • #22
                I am so happy we have no of this bull out here wher we haunt. SHEESH.

                I get along with everone, hell we trade ticket with each other so workers can visit on nights off.

                I take my actors to the other haunts that are close by so we can see what they are doing.

                One haunt owner in Portland offers cheap and effective advertisng on his portland haunts site.

                I put banners up on my nightmare guild site for the other haunts.

                The only haunt we did not see ey to eye with with the soft core porn haunt that wnet up last year in Portland. I had no words wth them, we are 50 miles away, but other owners were not pleased.

                Sorry you have to put up with this...

                Ed
                www.westcoasthauntersconvention.com
                Ed Roberts
                Founder
                The Nightmare Factory
                www.nightmarefactorysalem.com
                www.westcoasthauntersconvention.com

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                • #23
                  haunts getting competitive

                  it isn't competition that causes problems for frontyard fright its the fact that he is not complying with local ordinances and wanting waivers for life safety issues. He calls himself a haunted attraction yet it is in his garage and then he builds a couple buildings next to it and then blames others for the city inspectors showing up asking what he is doing. They told him as long as there are no roofs on the buildings it would be okay, so what does he do covers them with tarps. No fire protection and thinks he should get away with it. To try and get around tax issues he states on his website for an 8.00 donation or whatever you get a ticket to his haunt. This isn't a donation it is selling a ticket and I DO NOT mind competition but damn it do it on the same level. Don't know about anyone else but in Iowa we have to pay sales tax on ticket sales. I guess next year I will try this with the State since he seems to get away with it. For the donation of a ticket price I will give you a ticket and you can go in my haunt. Here in Iowa and in the industry, for I have seen it sometimes in the writings on these forums the mindset that " they should be left alone all they want to do is run a haunted house and love Halloween" and yet with this way of thinking if something happens at their "haunt" its okay that it will adversely affect my haunt through more regs if it is a fire. Thats why if you truly love Halloween stop trying to skirt laws and playing russian roulette with what others have built the right way. Like I said I do not mind Competition if it is on the same playing field as I'm on. If you do that you don't have to worry when the city comes calling.

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                  • #24
                    competitive

                    I'm sort of an outcast around here because I speak out. There is a haunt that was operating for years in Hampton The Dragons Eye, their walls were made out of black plastic no smoke detectors, no sprinkler, nothing. Last year they were not open.Says on their website they will open this year I just hope they come up witha better way to put it together. Things have changed in the last few years and no one in the industry or that have been on these forums can say that they don't know what should be done for safety, especially when it will come back to "haunt" everyone else.

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                    • #25
                      when i am not working at the haunt i am at. i work on my front lawn haunt.

                      the Neighbors here try to get competitive but they know i will do better than them. so before october hits i help them once in a while on there lawn haunt. it shows them i care but i don't tell them what i am doing for next halloween. so that way i can still be on top..


                      is that a bad thing???


                      this year's halloween haunt yard is coming out from a moive that i love... Trick 'r Treat... any guesses what i will do??

                      and i will have my hearse with me so what can i do with it???

                      HG
                      it's ok... the dark has many faces you can't see..

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