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    I want to say I am not pointing any fingers or making accusations in the comments below!!!
    As we all know the haunt industry has no shortage of talented designers, builders and vendors to get a haunt looking amazing. Is there anyone offering certified haunt fire safety consultation to our Industry ? As we all know fire is a major issue that is ever increasing and even after 20 plus yrs of experience never gets any easier !! I have even had fire officials from the same city argue and debate over their own correct code. What are we supposed to do when the people who set the standards and make the rules do not even fully know what is going on ?? This yr I have seen several experienced pro attractions that were inspected and passed on the city level get shut down at the state level. The codes we are give are vague and have so much wiggle room to work against us its scary!! Some haunt planner sheets even contradict them selves on the very same page (example) " No extension cords may be used / make sure all extension cords used are not worn or frayed and are not a trip hazard, No plywood is to be used in maze construction / All plywood and lumber must be treated with fire retardant / do not use fire retardant to treat walls as it creates smoke and fumes when ignited ". Some state fire Marshals offices have already already called for the removal of plywood walls for haunts even if they are used outside !!! lets face it no matter how safe we are or how high were rated everyone is vulnerable !! Who has not got any plywood or rigid foams used in their attractions ? If you do as the laws are interpreted you could be in violation and shut down. My question is if we spend thousands of $$$ dollars looking good would we spend the same money to be safe and legal ? Is there any certified haunt fire safety consultant that can be hired to make us all 100% compliant and uni-formal across the board? Do we as an industry need a service to satisfy this need? Would you hire and ship in a safety consultant as easily as a designer or painter? Is there a market for this service?
    I'm only doing this to impress 2 people ... The fire marshal and the customer that's it !!!

  • #2
    What does safe and legal actually mean? You could have a safe and legal attraction this year, then some strict guy comes in who hates haunted houses and makes it way more difficult even though it doesn't need to be. I think these guys on a power trip.

    Last edited by Darkangel; 10-31-2017, 08:44 AM.


    • #3
      The sad truth is that that consultants may help, but they can never fully prevent the issues you're experiencing now. The fire people have no one who can override them (consultants or politicians), so they can make vague rules that are subject to their own interpretation, and the business people have no choice but to live in fear that they won't interpret them ruthlessly. Everybody is afraid of something, and all Haunted House people are afraid of Fire Marshals.


      • #4
        I can tell you another haunter who knows the ropes can help you save a TON OF MONEY. I know this for a fact no matter who we build a haunt for they save more from working with us than they'll ever spend building the haunt itself. You learn tricks as go to do things smarter, better, cheaper and faster. I would 110% talk to others in the industry about helping you with these problems. Larry
        Larry Kirchner


        • #5
          Fire Inspection

          I am a 20 year career FireFighter. I did a 30 minute seminar on fire safety last year at Transworld. I would like to do a longer seminar this year on the same topic. However, I am afraid that you cannot hire someone as a guaranteed consultant. Every single City and jurisdiction can, and will, interpret the fire code anyway they see fit. And different inspectors in the same Dept. will handle it differently. Sorry.

          However, being educated before you open will save you money and time. Understanding what all inspectors will be looking for is also a key factor in your success or failure. Hope that helps.

          Fear Asylum Haunted House


          • #6
            This is exactly what I was trying to say earlier (but stated better by Capt. Chaos). The rules are subject to interpretation and change depending on who is inspecting them. You can do a lot to avoid the obvious infractions, but there is always something they can interpret a different way, if they so decide. Your best bet is to treat them as nice as you can, do whatever they say, and hope you never get on their bad side.