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  • Hauntworld State Pages Question/Iowa

    Upon visiting Hauntworld.com and clicking on the link to look for the haunts in Iowa, I read this:

    "The best haunted house in Iowa is located just on the border in Omaha called The Masters Castle which features four awesome attractions including The Masters Castle, The House on the Hill, The Haunted Woods and The Stalks 10 acre cornmaze. To learn more visit them on the web at www.scaryacres.com.

    Another AWESOME haunted house located not far from Iowa is The Darkness and Creepyworld located a short drive away in St. Louis. You can learn more about them at www.scarefest.com.
    "

    How can it be "The best in IOWA" when it's in NEBRASKA!?

    It goes on...

    "Some other cool scary places in Trails of Terror in Ackley, Iowa, Haunt Nation in Grimes, Iowa, House Of Death in Waterloo, Iowa, Frightmare Forest in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, The Haunted Manor in Lake City, Iowa, Thrashers House of Terror in Mount Pleasant, Iowa and many more click on page two of our listings for more haunted houses in Iowa. Click on Page TWO of our listings page in Iowa to find all of the above attractions."

    Isn't this defeating the purpose of each individual listing? And if you're going to list them, list them ALL.

    If I could, I would log in and DELETE my account from Hauntworld. I'm sick of this biased crap!
    Last edited by Front Yard Fright; 06-21-2009, 11:49 PM.
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  • #2
    I Don't Know If They Are Upgrading Or Not...

    I know exactly what you mean man, because the South Carolina listing is 100% incomplete. It lists a haunt as being in SC when in fact it's in NC. I was doing research on local haunts of Friday and realized there are better listing sites out there. EPIC FAIL
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    • #3
      Not trying to overstep, but Larry is trying very hard to get everyone to update their listings:

      http://www.hauntworld.com/haunted_ho...ead.php?t=8776

      Just trying to help!


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      • #4
        I agree... no matter what state you go to there are other haunts (maybe they did pay for this advertising?) Maybe not...
        We bought our banner ad and are getting the run around now... frustrating to get it online and going.

        But if you pull up Tennessee - You get MO, GA, AL, KY and even OHIO Haunts w/ banners - and as I said - if they paid fine... but my understanding was that the STATE Haunts are listed first then the others? Some of the other local haunts are listed but lost among the banners of other states.

        Mississippi has two banners from the state yet banners from GA, AL, Ohio, LA, etc...

        Alaska has one and The Darkness - Missouri?

        Arizona - only 1 banner - The Darkness...

        I won't continue to waste time - but it's frustrating to support the communist nation - And I'm wishing we would have spent our money elsewhere.

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        • #5
          You never really had this problem till they started selling banners. I would buy one for Missouri. But if Im gonna spend good hard earned money I want to be the first listed. And living in Missouri I have a snow balls chance in hell for that. But its Larrys site he can do what he wants.
          Damon
          Last edited by damon carson; 06-22-2009, 10:16 AM.
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          • #6
            Well and I understand selling banners and all that... you gotta make money somehow.
            However, they should have a select area for "Featured Banners" instead of saying "The BEST haunt in Iowa is... and is located in..." when in reality it's located in NEBRASKA!

            If Larry were to run his site professonaily no doubt more haunts would want to join, update their listings, and WANT to be here... Instead of what's going on right now with people wishing they had taken their money someplace else.
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            www.frontyardfright.com

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            • #7
              Well, I have complained to Larry about that.. Something like only three of the top ten featured banners in Illinois last year were for events that were in Illinois. I raised my concerns to Larry that only Illinois Haunts should be in the Illinois section and it has fallen upon deaf ears. He wants to turn a buck and will sell to anyone who will buy a banner. Even if a Hawaii haunt wants to buy an Illinois banner. LOL. I DO understand, though, that Larry has to pay to keep the site up and he can make the rules. At the same time, I agree that selling spaces to out-of-state events is confusing to the general public who view the site. When you see the title of the page as “Find Haunted Houses, Halloween Attractions and Haunted Hayrides in Illinois”, you expect what you are looking at to be a list of events within that state. But hey, I don’t make the rules around here. LOL.
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              • #8
                No it is NOT DUMB...

                Last time I checked Front Yard Haunt didn't buy a banner and didn't buy a featured listing. You can't complain that someone else steps up and realizes something is good for their business and buys it.

                We are now adding MORE content to our pages and we feature the haunts who are paying. If you had bought a featured listing or a banner we would have featured you as well.

                If the shoe was on the other foot you would not disagree. Are you paying thousands upon thousands to maintain this site? NO!

                Are you paying all the bills for the SEO people I have working for the site now? NO! Are you paying for all the problems, new features, and upgrades for this site? NO! You are not paying one dime, however you do get a free listing with all the same bells and whistles that everyone else gets.

                The marketing makes you money period, personally I don't understand why every single haunt in the world doesn't take advantage... this is why some haunts get richer and others get poorer. Marketing is the key to running a successful haunted house, you don't load up on latex monsters and then save every penny you can on marketing. You got it backwards!

                Most haunt owners in this industry have things backwards so they do 5,000 guests while others do 50,000... bottom line I don't make money on this site not yet, I spend more to learn from mistakes and payback the people who do spend their money to support the site.

                If someone wants to advertise in a state any state we are wide open!

                Larry
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                • #9
                  Hauntworld is Awesome

                  i can say this , i think that Larry ,and Patti and the whole crew up there in mo do an awesome job on this site and, i aspire and dream to one day be able to have a haunt of xtreme perfection such as what they have mastered in st louis , there imagination never fails to excite us here in small town and we appreciate every little thing they do , that makes the haunted house industry just that much better and we for one will continue to support Larry and Patti and the whole crew down there in what ever way we can , They have bent over backwards to help us and we are forever grateful for this site and there entire team , and professionalism , we were on our way to meet every on at transworld when the radiator went out in the truck and we had to be towed back and spend all the transworld money on a new one along with tow , but that still has not stopped me from excuting my plans for this 2009 haunted house , although we are small and maybe do 2,000 to 3,000 people in a season we have fun and learn and continue to better our selves as every year passes , and will not stop untill our dreams are fulfilled and to larry and patti we will see you at transworld 2010 if we have to crawl there naked thats a promise , so i guess i will end with take the other haunts that advertise in your state contact them and see if every one can cross promote each and you will be surprised how much better every thing is but always remember have fun and help others that what we are about as a family of haunters , love you all and talk to you all soon

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                  • #10
                    I can't totally disagree that some haunts in one state would advertise in another.
                    If I'm in Southern Illinois I am a heck of a lot closer to St. Louis than Chicago! In fact look at anyone in ANY rural area of Illinois, they have to wade through all the listing for the Chicagoland area to try and find any other Illinois listing!

                    People in Kansas City...Kansas or Missouri??? Every state has an example. I am sure the newpaper in Carbondale is not going to refuse an ad from a haunt just because it's across the river in Missouri! A smart businessman will want to advertise in both. And as stated haunts have an option if they want to purchase a banner or not. If they choose not to and someone else does, whose fault is it??

                    I'm from Vegas. I visit friends in Chicago, LA, New York and what do I see?? Ads for Las Vegas!!
                    Each of us has to decide if something is beneficial for our business or not. If purchasing an out of state banner isn't effective, it won't be done long. If they're back the following year it must be accomplishing something!!I spend $5,000 on a MySpace promotion. IF it had been effective I would have been back, I wasn't, I'm not...simple. If you don't want out of state banners I guess it's up to the in-state haunts to purchase them first.

                    Just my opinion!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by drfrightner View Post
                      No it is NOT DUMB... If someone wants to advertise in a state any state we are wide open!
                      Larry
                      Larry, maybe it IS dumb... Don't brow-beat someone when they make a valid point, learn from it!
                      Selling ad space in the IOWA section of your directory to an event in NEBRASKA is just plain stupid. Why?
                      1) Because the general public is going to notice the event is in a state VERY far away, and as a result, they will question the integrity of the data on your website. BAD MOVE!
                      2) Posting online that "The best haunted house in Iowa is xyz", when that event is located in Nebraska is not only confusing, but it is also false advertising! This event isn't even in or near Iowa, so how can you advertise that it is!?!?
                      Posting false information is wrong, PERIOD!



                      BTW, Fear Asylum, don't talk to Larry about cross-promotion. He doesn't believe in it. In fact, in the past, he slammed Steve Krisof for suggesting it as a marketing technique, stating that it was like Walmart advertising for Target.
                      Originally posted by RJ Productions View Post
                      I can't totally disagree that some haunts in one state would advertise in another...
                      I'm from Vegas. I visit friends in Chicago, LA, New York and what do I see?? Ads for Las Vegas!!
                      Good point about neighboring state ads. Posting ads all across the country is fine for vacation advertisements... "Go gambling in Vegas!", but what about haunt adverts? For the most part, folks are only going to go to haunted attractions within their own state... or in bordering states.
                      So what's your take on some idiot in Nebraska saying that his haunt is the best one in Iowa? C'mon, you can't agree with that, can you?
                      I know I will be lambasted for this, but events should only be advertised in the states which they reside. Illinois events on HauntedIllinois.com, Wisconsin events on HauntedWisconsin.com and Ohio events on HauntedOhio.com.
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                      • #12
                        My main argument here isn't about promoting other haunts in other states. I understand that to a point.

                        However, I don't agree at all with the fact that you state "The best haunted house is in NEBRASKA."

                        Just because a haunt pays to be on a site does NOT make it the best in the state... Especially when the haunt isn't even IN the state you claim it to be the best of!

                        ... It's DUMB.
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                        • #13
                          I personally like searching by metropolitan area over state for many of the reasons in here. If you want to know what would actually be useful, it would be the ability to put in your zip code, and then list haunted houses in order of distance from that zip code.

                          I live in Memphis, so I understand that accross states can make sense. I'm in Tennessee, if I cross the city line to the south, I'm in Mississippi, and if I cross to the west, I'm in Arkansas.

                          Other than Memphis haunts, Nashville are generally the closest in Tennessee, and that is about 3-3.5 hours away. Little Rock in Arkansas is only 2 hours as is Tupelo in Mississippi. Graystone in Killen Alabama is about the same distance as Nashville.

                          Chatanooga is about 5 and a halfhours away, which is actually longer than it takes to get to St. Louis. Knoxville is 7 hours away, which is longer than it would take to get to New Orleans or Atlanta.

                          So I guess my point is, the way the site is set up by state is set up for advertising income. It isn't set up for the ease of users or to get good information. It's why I use other sites when searching for haunts.
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                          • #14
                            Very good point HM. I was just on FindAHaunt.com today and the way they have it set up is fantastic. You can enter your home address and then search for haunts withing a __ mile radius.

                            That way, if you're in southern Iowa, you're not finding haunts located in Minnesota.
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                            • #15
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